Training Session2024-01-22

How Learning Sales Makes You A Better Coach

Eben Pagan explains why learning professional sales is essential for becoming a great coach, demonstrating how sales skills help you better understand client psychology, handle rejection, and qualify prospects effectively. He reveals why trying to skip sales through marketing shortcuts actually robs both you and your clients of better outcomes.

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Teachings 5

  • Successful people share a common pattern of doing one-to-one sales early in their careers before transitioning to marketing

    David Ogilvy did door-to-door sales, others sold pots and pans, Girl Scout cookies, or newspaper subscriptions before achieving financial success

  • Going through rejection builds resilience and prevents you from taking client objections personally in all relationships

    Parents who take rejection personally when children say no get upset instead of understanding it's just what the child doesn't want to do right now

  • Telling prospects you're not a good match for them increases their respect for you rather than decreasing it

    When you tell someone after 5-10 minutes that you're not a good match and provide resources, you save both parties time and demonstrate confidence

  • Setting boundaries quickly communicates that you're not afraid of offending prospects, which increases their respect

    In dating contexts, playfully setting boundaries when someone touches you shows you're not afraid of offending them, which raises respect levels

  • Qualifying affluent clients early in conversations increases their respect for you as a professional

    Successful clients respond positively when you demonstrate standards and qualification processes rather than accepting anyone

Perspectives 2

  • Learning professional sales is essential for becoming a great coach because coaching itself is largely sales - the conscious, professional kind

    Sales teaches you how people really work and how to motivate people to do what they need to do to get results they want

  • Early rejection in sales conversations is actually valuable because it saves time and prevents working with unmotivated clients

    Finding resistance in first conversations prevents dragging unmotivated clients through coaching packages two months later

Quotable Moments 3

  • if you haven't learned and practiced sales to the point where you're competent then you almost can't be a great coach

    Eben Pagan
  • one of my favorite things to do is to tell someone that I've been talking to for five or 10 minutes you know what I'm not going to be a good match for you

    Eben Pagan
  • I'd much rather have the rejection up front so I can say oh not a match that's great it's totally great that it's not a match

    Eben Pagan

How to Use Early Qualification to Increase Client Respect

A framework for qualifying prospects early in conversations to save time and increase professional credibility

  1. 1

    Start asking qualifying questions early

    Begin asking questions about motivation and commitment within the first 5-10 minutes of conversation

  2. 2

    Notice resistance signals

    Pay attention to responses like 'why are you asking so many questions' or 'I'm not comfortable talking about this'

  3. 3

    Make the no-match decision quickly

    If someone seems resistant or unmotivated, tell them directly that you're not a good match

  4. 4

    Provide alternative resources

    Give them helpful resources and suggestions for finding someone who would be a better fit

  5. 5

    Move on confidently

    End the conversation professionally without taking the mismatch personally

Questions Answered

Why is learning sales important for coaches

when you learn professional sales like really conscious intentional professional sales when you learn it you practice it you become great at it you become a much better Coach

Eben Pagan1:00

Sales training teaches you how people really work and how to motivate them to take action, which is essentially what coaching is. Most successful people did sales early in their careers before transitioning to marketing.

How does rejection help you become a better coach

it makes you a much better parent because then when your child gives you an objection or rejection instead of taking it personally and being like oh you don't love me or whatever you just go oh well that's not what they wanted to do right now

Eben Pagan3:36

Rejection builds resilience and teaches you not to take client objections personally. This helps in all relationships, whether with coaching clients, children, or romantic partners.

Should coaches tell prospects they won't work with them

one of my favorite things to do is to tell someone that I've been talking to for five or 10 minutes you know what I'm not going to be a good match for you

Eben Pagan6:42

Yes, telling prospects you're not a good match actually increases their respect for you. It saves time for both parties and demonstrates professional standards and confidence.

What happens when you qualify clients early

one of the things that I've learned about sales and about getting affluent clients like really successful clients is the sooner that you start qualifying them the sooner that their respect for you goes up

Eben Pagan9:18

Early qualification increases client respect for you as a professional and helps you find better-matched, more motivated clients while avoiding time-wasting relationships.

Why do most people want to skip sales training

people want to just skip the sales they want to go right to marketing Evan just give me an ad tell me the headline what do I right so that the clients just call me up the fish jump into the boat and I don't ever have to worry about any of that bad rejection stuff

Eben Pagan1:30

People want to avoid the 'bad rejection stuff' and hope that marketing will make clients call them automatically, like fish jumping into a boat, without having to do one-to-one sales.

Summary

The Sales Foundation of Success

Eben reveals the common pattern among financially successful people: they all did one-to-one sales early in their careers before transitioning to marketing. He explains why trying to skip this crucial step robs both entrepreneurs and their clients of better outcomes.

Why Sales Makes You a Better Coach

Professional sales training teaches you how people really work and how to motivate them to take action, which is essentially what coaching is. Without these skills, it's nearly impossible to become a truly great coach because you haven't learned the fundamental psychology of human motivation.

The Value of Rejection

Rather than avoiding rejection, embracing it builds crucial resilience and prevents taking objections personally in all relationships. Early rejection in sales conversations actually saves time and prevents working with unmotivated clients down the road.

The Counterintuitive Power of Saying No

Telling prospects you're not a good match actually increases their respect for you rather than decreases it. This principle extends beyond business into parenting and romantic relationships, where setting boundaries demonstrates confidence and professional standards.

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Counterpoint

Claim:Skip sales and go straight to marketing to avoid rejection and have clients call you automatically

Reframe: Learning sales first makes you a much better coach and marketer because you understand how people really work and how to motivate them

Most financially successful people did one-to-one sales early in their careers, and professional sales skills are essential for effective coaching

Claim:Rejection is negative and should be avoided through better marketing funnels

Reframe: Rejection is valuable feedback that saves time and helps you find better-matched clients while building resilience for all relationships

Early rejection prevents working with unmotivated clients and teaches you not to take objections personally in parenting and romantic relationships

Claim:Always try to please prospects and avoid telling them you won't work with them

Reframe: Telling prospects you're not a good match increases their respect and saves time for both parties

When you tell someone after 5-10 minutes you're not a match and provide resources, respect goes up rather than down

Key Points 7

Successful people share a common pattern of doing one-to-one sales early in their careers before transitioning to marketing

Learning professional sales is essential for becoming a great coach because coaching itself is largely sales - the conscious, professional kind

1:00

Going through rejection builds resilience and prevents you from taking client objections personally in all relationships

2:42

Early rejection in sales conversations is actually valuable because it saves time and prevents working with unmotivated clients

5:39

Telling prospects you're not a good match for them increases their respect for you rather than decreasing it

6:42

Setting boundaries quickly communicates that you're not afraid of offending prospects, which increases their respect

8:14

Qualifying affluent clients early in conversations increases their respect for you as a professional

9:18

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