Training Session2013-12-19

Be Cautious Of These Personality Types

Eben Pagan identifies three dangerous personality types in business: smooth talkers who can't execute, professional service providers who inflate costs, and 'sticky people' who create dependencies. He shares specific strategies to protect yourself including demanding fixed budgets from consultants and pairing smooth talkers with organizers.

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Key Moments

How to Protect Your Business from Dangerous Personality Types -- A systematic approach to identifying and managing three types of people who can damage your business

One in 31 People Are Under Legal Supervision

One in 31 people are under legal system supervision, requiring vigilance in business relationships

5:50

Professional Service Firms Sell Hours Not Loyalty

Professional service firms will switch sides after a lawsuit ends because their business model is hourly billing, not loyalty

4:02

Demand Fixed Budgets from Professional Service Firms

Demand fixed budgets from professional service firms and be a bulldog about cost estimates

2:49

Smooth Talkers Are Typically Poor Executors

Smooth talkers are typically poor executors despite their impressive communication abilities and system design skills

Watch for Sticky People Who Build Political Systems Around Themselves

Watch for 'sticky people' who build political systems and create dependencies that make them difficult to remove

Relevant Clips26

  • How-To

    How to Protect Your Business from Dangerous Personality Types -- A systematic approach to identifying and managing three types of people who can damage your business

  • Teaching

    Why Consultants Talk and Expect You to Execute

    Consultants and advisors are typically smooth talkers who expect you to implement their ideas rather than executing themselves

  • Teaching4:02

    Professional Service Firms Sell Hours Not Loyalty

    Professional service firms will switch sides after a lawsuit ends because their business model is hourly billing, not loyalty

  • Teaching

    Smooth Talkers Are Typically Poor Executors

    Smooth talkers are typically poor executors despite their impressive communication abilities and system design skills

  • Teaching

    Watch for Sticky People Who Build Political Systems Around Themselves

    Watch for 'sticky people' who build political systems and create dependencies that make them difficult to remove

  • Teaching

    Investigate Weird Signals With New Team Members Immediately

    Investigate immediately when sensing anything weird with new team members to prevent major problems

  • Teaching5:50

    One in 31 People Are Under Legal Supervision

    One in 31 people are under legal system supervision, requiring vigilance in business relationships

  • Teaching

    Don't Spend on Legal Protection Before You've Validated the Idea

    Avoid premature trademarking and legal protection unless you have a proven blockbuster idea

  • Teaching2:49

    Demand Fixed Budgets from Professional Service Firms

    Demand fixed budgets from professional service firms and be a bulldog about cost estimates

  • Teaching

    Pairing Smooth Talkers with Organizers for Execution

    Pair smooth talkers with organizers to ensure execution and results delivery

  • Answer

    The 4 Keys of Marketing Success and Why Order Matters

    Sticky people are smooth talkers who build political systems and create black boxes that only they understand. They become dangerous because they make themselves indispensable by controlling critical systems, making removal difficult once problems are discovered.

  • Answer

    How to Spot the Smooth Talker Who Will Never Execute

    Look for people with extra polish and charisma who seem way too together. They excel at drawing beautiful system diagrams and describing architectures but consistently fail to execute over 6-12 month periods.

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  • Answer

    Only Trademark After You've Proven the Concept Makes Sales

    No, only invest in trademarking after you've thoroughly tested your idea and proven it's a blockbuster. Don't spend thousands on legal protection before you've validated your concept and made sales.

  • Answer

    Demand Fixed Budgets and Refuse to Start Without Cost Projections

    Demand fixed budgets upfront and refuse to work with firms that won't project costs. Be a bulldog about estimates and require notification before any additional charges beyond the agreed amount.

  • Answer

    Pair Visionaries With Organizers to Get Results

    Pair them with an organizer who can keep their eye on them and ensure results. This can be through direct reporting, partnership, or support arrangements to make sure actual work gets completed.

  • Answer

    Investigate Red Flags Immediately — Don't Wait and Hope They Pass

    Investigate immediately and spend extra time working on any weird situations. Don't ignore warning signs as they can lead to serious problems like theft or fraud.

  • Quotable1:10

    Watching Their Mouth Instead of Their Work: The Hiring Blind Spot

    I have been thinking that this has been working the whole time because I've been watching their mouth and not their work

  • Quotable5:53

    There Are People Out There Ready to Eat Your Business Lunch

    we all got to watch our asses in business because there are a lot of people out there that want to eat our lunch

  • Quotable3:10

    No Cost Projection Means No Deal

    unless you can project how much it's going to cost then we probably can't do business

  • Quotable0:20

    Smooth Talkers Are Rarely Smooth Doers

    smooth talkers usually aren't smooth doers

  • Question2:37

    Identifying the Smooth Talker Who Can't Deliver

    How can you tell if someone is a smooth talker who won't deliver results?

  • Question4:42

    Don't Trademark Until You Have a Proven Blockbuster Idea

    Should you trademark your business name immediately when starting?

  • Question1:24

    Smooth Talker Hired — Who Must You Also Bring In

    What should you do if you hire a smooth talker for your business?

  • Question7:50

    What Are Sticky People and Why They're Dangerous to Your Business

    What are sticky people in business and why are they dangerous?

  • Question2:51

    How to Stop Consultants From Running Up Unlimited Charges

    How do you prevent consultants from overcharging on projects?

  • Question

    How to Handle Red Flags With New Employees Before They Become Problems

    How should you handle red flags with new employees?

Entities Touched

Canonical Teachings

Summary

The Smooth Talker Problem: When Communication Skills Mask Poor Execution

Eben identifies the first dangerous personality type: smooth talkers who excel at describing systems and creating impressive presentations but consistently fail to deliver results. He provides the memorable phrase 'smooth talkers usually aren't smooth doers' and explains how entrepreneurs get mesmerized by their communication abilities while ignoring actual performance.

Managing Professional Service Providers: The Cost Control Challenge

The discussion shifts to consultants and professional service firms who operate on hourly billing models. Eben shares specific strategies for demanding fixed budgets and explains why these providers will even work for your opponents after representing you, using attorney firms as a prime example.

Sticky People: The Most Dangerous Business Threat

Eben warns about 'sticky people' who create political systems and dependencies that make them difficult to remove once problems are discovered. He shares a cautionary tale about an employee who went on a $30,000 shopping spree with company checks, emphasizing the need to investigate red flags immediately.

Be Cautious Of These Personality Types
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Counterpoint

Claim:Eloquent speakers with polished communication skills are the best hires for getting results

Reframe: Smooth talkers are usually poor executors who excel at describing systems but fail at implementation

Pagan's phrase 'smooth talkers usually aren't smooth doers' and observation that they create beautiful architectural drawings but deliver no results over 6-12 months

Claim:Professional service firms are loyal partners who work in your best interests

Reframe: Professional service firms operate on hourly billing models and will work for your opponents immediately after representing you

Allan's observation that attorney firms will take cases from former opponents 'as soon as that lawsuit is over' because 'that's their model'

Claim:You should immediately protect your business name and ideas with trademarks and patents

Reframe: Only invest in legal protection after thoroughly testing and proving your idea is a blockbuster

Example of entrepreneur spending $27,000 on trademarking 'before selling anything' when they haven't proven the concept works

Topics

Coaching Strategies

team pairing strategiesbudget managementteam monitoring

Business Frameworks

smooth talker identificationorganizer-creative partnershipsfixed pricing negotiationssticky people identificationidea validation before legal protection

Common Mistakes

hiring based on communication skills aloneexpecting consultants to executeopen-ended consulting agreementsexpecting loyalty from hourly service providerspremature trademarkingallowing dependency creationignoring red flags