How To Get Your Customers To Give You Referrals
Eben Pagan teaches a systematic approach to getting customer referrals by setting expectations upfront and giving customers compelling stories to share. Rather than simply asking for referrals, he shows how to create experiences that customers naturally want to tell their friends about.
Teachings 6
Set referral expectations upfront by explaining your business model focuses on service improvement rather than customer acquisition
Strategy originated from Australian dentist Patty Lund, taught by Joe Stumpf at By Referral Only to real estate agents who successfully walk out of appointments with both contracts and new referrals
Make the referral deal before providing service by explaining you invest in service quality instead of advertising, then ask for referrals in exchange
Real estate agents using this method walk out of listing appointments with both contracts and referrals in the same meeting
People refer through storytelling, not direct recommendations - they share experiences within natural conversations
Example given of dry cleaner referral happening through story about having a rough day and discovering amazing service, not a direct recommendation call
Customers tell referral stories to seek attention, approval, and validation - they want to appear intelligent and cool to friends
Analysis shows people share stories for self-validation and status, expecting friends to respond with their own impressive stories
Design customer experiences specifically to create stories their friends will find cool and worth sharing
By Referral Only strategy: bring celebration basket with balloons and cookies to client's office when loan approved, creating office buzz and referral opportunities
Create referral moments by bringing celebrations directly to the customer's environment where others can witness and participate
Real estate agents bring celebration baskets to client offices when contracts are accepted, causing clients to share cookies and excitement with coworkers while agent stands with business cards ready
Quotable Moments 3
“make the deal up front and what i saw in real estate a lot and they have tremendous success to this day a lot of real estate agents will walk out of a home listing appointment or out of a buyer agent appointment with the contract and with referrals”
— Eben Pagan“what kind of stories should you give your customers to tell stories that their friends will think are cool so give them a story that's the kind that they would want to call and tell their friends about”
— Eben Pagan“underneath it all we're telling stories to get love attention approval status friendship that's why we're doing it underneath it all”
— Eben Pagan
How to Get Customer Referrals Using the Story Method
A systematic approach to generating referrals by setting expectations upfront and creating story-worthy experiences
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Set expectations upfront
Before offering your service, explain that you focus on improving service quality rather than advertising, and ask customers to refer others in exchange for great service
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Make the referral deal
Get agreement for referrals before providing service, making it part of your initial client relationship
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Design story-worthy experiences
Create specific moments that customers will want to tell their friends about, like bringing celebrations to their workplace
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Leverage social environments
Deliver memorable experiences in places where others can witness and participate, creating immediate referral opportunities
Questions Answered
How do you get customers to refer new clients to your business
“when you first meet a client you sit down with them and before you start offering your product or service before you really even start selling them you say you know what before we get going let me just tell you a little bit about how my business works”
— Eben Pagan▶ 1:05
Set referral expectations upfront by explaining your business model focuses on improving service rather than advertising, then ask customers to refer others in exchange for great service. Create story-worthy experiences customers naturally want to share with friends.
When should you ask customers for referrals
“make the deal up front and what i saw in real estate a lot and they have tremendous success to this day a lot of real estate agents will walk out of a home listing appointment or out of a buyer agent appointment with the contract and with referrals”
— Eben Pagan▶ 2:05
Ask for referrals upfront before providing service, not after. Explain your business model focuses on service improvement rather than customer acquisition, then make the referral deal as part of your initial agreement.
How do people actually refer businesses to their friends
“we don't call up our friends and say uh hi joe i just wanted to call and uh give a recommendation for a dry cleaner that i just used all right that's just not the way it's done”
— Eben Pagan▶ 3:07
People refer through storytelling within natural conversations, not direct recommendations. They share experiences as stories to seek attention and validation, wanting to appear intelligent and cool to their friends.
What kind of customer experiences create referrals
“what kind of stories should you give your customers to tell stories that their friends will think are cool so give them a story that's the kind that they would want to call and tell their friends about”
— Eben Pagan▶ 6:12
Create experiences that give customers cool stories to tell their friends. Design moments that are story-worthy and make customers want to share their experience, like bringing celebrations directly to their workplace where others can witness.
Why do customers tell stories about businesses to their friends
“we humans are quirky and weird and let me tell you something underneath it all we're telling stories to get love attention approval status friendship that's why we're doing it underneath it all”
— Eben Pagan▶ 5:42
Customers share business stories to seek attention, approval, and validation from friends. They want to appear intelligent and cool by sharing interesting experiences, expecting friends to respond with their own impressive stories.
Summary
Setting Referral Expectations Upfront
Eben introduces the foundational strategy of asking for referrals before providing service, explaining how this approach originated from Australian dentist Patty Lund and was refined by Joe Stumpf at By Referral Only. Real estate agents using this method successfully walk out of appointments with both contracts and new referrals.
The Psychology of Referral Storytelling
Rather than making direct recommendations, people refer through storytelling within natural conversations. Eben reveals that customers share business stories to seek attention, approval, and validation from friends, wanting to appear intelligent and cool through interesting experiences.
Creating Story-Worthy Customer Experiences
The key is designing specific experiences that customers naturally want to tell their friends about. Eben shares examples like bringing celebration baskets to client offices when deals close, creating immediate buzz and referral opportunities with multiple witnesses present.

Counterpoint
Claim: “Ask customers for referrals after providing good service”
Reframe: Set referral expectations upfront by explaining your business model focuses on service improvement rather than customer acquisition
Real estate agents using this upfront approach walk out of appointments with both contracts and referrals, rather than hoping for referrals later
Claim: “People make direct referral recommendations to friends”
Reframe: People refer through storytelling within natural conversations to seek attention and validation
Referrals happen through stories like 'something cool happened today' rather than direct recommendation calls
Claim: “Focus on providing good service and referrals will naturally follow”
Reframe: Design specific experiences that create stories customers will want to tell their friends
Strategic celebration visits to client offices create immediate referral opportunities with multiple witnesses present
Key Points 6
Set referral expectations upfront by explaining your business model focuses on service improvement rather than customer acquisition
▶ 1:05Make the referral deal before providing service by explaining you invest in service quality instead of advertising, then ask for referrals in exchange
▶ 1:35People refer through storytelling, not direct recommendations - they share experiences within natural conversations
▶ 3:07Customers tell referral stories to seek attention, approval, and validation - they want to appear intelligent and cool to friends
▶ 4:09Design customer experiences specifically to create stories their friends will find cool and worth sharing
▶ 6:12Create referral moments by bringing celebrations directly to the customer's environment where others can witness and participate
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