Training Session2013-12-20

How To Get Your Customers To Give You Referrals

Eben Pagan teaches a systematic approach to getting customer referrals by setting expectations upfront and giving customers compelling stories to share. Rather than simply asking for referrals, he shows how to create experiences that customers naturally want to tell their friends about.

Teachings 6

  • Set referral expectations upfront by explaining your business model focuses on service improvement rather than customer acquisition

    Strategy originated from Australian dentist Patty Lund, taught by Joe Stumpf at By Referral Only to real estate agents who successfully walk out of appointments with both contracts and new referrals

  • Make the referral deal before providing service by explaining you invest in service quality instead of advertising, then ask for referrals in exchange

    Real estate agents using this method walk out of listing appointments with both contracts and referrals in the same meeting

  • People refer through storytelling, not direct recommendations - they share experiences within natural conversations

    Example given of dry cleaner referral happening through story about having a rough day and discovering amazing service, not a direct recommendation call

  • Customers tell referral stories to seek attention, approval, and validation - they want to appear intelligent and cool to friends

    Analysis shows people share stories for self-validation and status, expecting friends to respond with their own impressive stories

  • Design customer experiences specifically to create stories their friends will find cool and worth sharing

    By Referral Only strategy: bring celebration basket with balloons and cookies to client's office when loan approved, creating office buzz and referral opportunities

  • Create referral moments by bringing celebrations directly to the customer's environment where others can witness and participate

    Real estate agents bring celebration baskets to client offices when contracts are accepted, causing clients to share cookies and excitement with coworkers while agent stands with business cards ready

Quotable Moments 3

  • make the deal up front and what i saw in real estate a lot and they have tremendous success to this day a lot of real estate agents will walk out of a home listing appointment or out of a buyer agent appointment with the contract and with referrals

    Eben Pagan
  • what kind of stories should you give your customers to tell stories that their friends will think are cool so give them a story that's the kind that they would want to call and tell their friends about

    Eben Pagan
  • underneath it all we're telling stories to get love attention approval status friendship that's why we're doing it underneath it all

    Eben Pagan

How to Get Customer Referrals Using the Story Method

A systematic approach to generating referrals by setting expectations upfront and creating story-worthy experiences

  1. 1

    Set expectations upfront

    Before offering your service, explain that you focus on improving service quality rather than advertising, and ask customers to refer others in exchange for great service

  2. 2

    Make the referral deal

    Get agreement for referrals before providing service, making it part of your initial client relationship

  3. 3

    Design story-worthy experiences

    Create specific moments that customers will want to tell their friends about, like bringing celebrations to their workplace

  4. 4

    Leverage social environments

    Deliver memorable experiences in places where others can witness and participate, creating immediate referral opportunities

Questions Answered

How do you get customers to refer new clients to your business

when you first meet a client you sit down with them and before you start offering your product or service before you really even start selling them you say you know what before we get going let me just tell you a little bit about how my business works

Eben Pagan1:05

Set referral expectations upfront by explaining your business model focuses on improving service rather than advertising, then ask customers to refer others in exchange for great service. Create story-worthy experiences customers naturally want to share with friends.

When should you ask customers for referrals

make the deal up front and what i saw in real estate a lot and they have tremendous success to this day a lot of real estate agents will walk out of a home listing appointment or out of a buyer agent appointment with the contract and with referrals

Eben Pagan2:05

Ask for referrals upfront before providing service, not after. Explain your business model focuses on service improvement rather than customer acquisition, then make the referral deal as part of your initial agreement.

How do people actually refer businesses to their friends

we don't call up our friends and say uh hi joe i just wanted to call and uh give a recommendation for a dry cleaner that i just used all right that's just not the way it's done

Eben Pagan3:07

People refer through storytelling within natural conversations, not direct recommendations. They share experiences as stories to seek attention and validation, wanting to appear intelligent and cool to their friends.

What kind of customer experiences create referrals

what kind of stories should you give your customers to tell stories that their friends will think are cool so give them a story that's the kind that they would want to call and tell their friends about

Eben Pagan6:12

Create experiences that give customers cool stories to tell their friends. Design moments that are story-worthy and make customers want to share their experience, like bringing celebrations directly to their workplace where others can witness.

Why do customers tell stories about businesses to their friends

we humans are quirky and weird and let me tell you something underneath it all we're telling stories to get love attention approval status friendship that's why we're doing it underneath it all

Eben Pagan5:42

Customers share business stories to seek attention, approval, and validation from friends. They want to appear intelligent and cool by sharing interesting experiences, expecting friends to respond with their own impressive stories.

Summary

Setting Referral Expectations Upfront

Eben introduces the foundational strategy of asking for referrals before providing service, explaining how this approach originated from Australian dentist Patty Lund and was refined by Joe Stumpf at By Referral Only. Real estate agents using this method successfully walk out of appointments with both contracts and new referrals.

The Psychology of Referral Storytelling

Rather than making direct recommendations, people refer through storytelling within natural conversations. Eben reveals that customers share business stories to seek attention, approval, and validation from friends, wanting to appear intelligent and cool through interesting experiences.

Creating Story-Worthy Customer Experiences

The key is designing specific experiences that customers naturally want to tell their friends about. Eben shares examples like bringing celebration baskets to client offices when deals close, creating immediate buzz and referral opportunities with multiple witnesses present.

How To Get Your Customers To Give You Referrals
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Counterpoint

Claim:Ask customers for referrals after providing good service

Reframe: Set referral expectations upfront by explaining your business model focuses on service improvement rather than customer acquisition

Real estate agents using this upfront approach walk out of appointments with both contracts and referrals, rather than hoping for referrals later

Claim:People make direct referral recommendations to friends

Reframe: People refer through storytelling within natural conversations to seek attention and validation

Referrals happen through stories like 'something cool happened today' rather than direct recommendation calls

Claim:Focus on providing good service and referrals will naturally follow

Reframe: Design specific experiences that create stories customers will want to tell their friends

Strategic celebration visits to client offices create immediate referral opportunities with multiple witnesses present

Key Points 6

Set referral expectations upfront by explaining your business model focuses on service improvement rather than customer acquisition

1:05

Make the referral deal before providing service by explaining you invest in service quality instead of advertising, then ask for referrals in exchange

1:35

People refer through storytelling, not direct recommendations - they share experiences within natural conversations

3:07

Customers tell referral stories to seek attention, approval, and validation - they want to appear intelligent and cool to friends

4:09

Design customer experiences specifically to create stories their friends will find cool and worth sharing

6:12

Create referral moments by bringing celebrations directly to the customer's environment where others can witness and participate

6:45

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