Training Session2023-09-24

How "Perceived Value" Gets You Premium Clients (The Art of Pricing)

Eben Pagan reveals how perceived value dramatically impacts pricing success through real examples from his dating advice business. He shares specific price testing results that increased both sales volume and revenue, demonstrating why value is subjective and how entrepreneurs can leverage this principle.

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Key Moments · 1/5

Value is completely subjective—two books with identical production costs can command vastly different prices based on perceived worth▶ 1:01

Teachings 5

Value is completely subjective—two books with identical production costs can command vastly different prices based on perceived worth
Robert Cialdini's book Influence sold for $10 in bookstores while Jay Abraham's Mr. X book sold for $1,000, and Abraham sold thousands of copies at that price point
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Raising prices can actually increase sales volume, not just revenue per unit
When Eben raised his dating book price from $29.95 to $39.95, he sold 10 copies in one day—his highest sales day ever, compared to selling 1-2 copies every few days at the lower price
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Information is the primary source of value in modern economy because it transforms raw materials into valuable products
Ray Kurzweil's observation that oil was just annoying black tar until information and technology made it refineable into gasoline that powers the entire economy
Price testing should be done systematically with head-to-head comparisons to discover optimal pricing
Eben's team tested a $200 video course against $300 and found it sold better at the higher price point when run as controlled split tests
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Creating product bundles with bonus materials can justify higher price points and increase perceived value
Eben packaged his dating advice book with three bonus ebooks, learned from Dean Jackson who showed him this bundling strategy
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Quotable Moments 3

“the day that I raised the price I sold more copies of the book”
— Eben Pagan
“the only thing that has value anymore is information because information turns raw material and raw resources into products and services and experiences”
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“in life you get what you negotiate”
— Eben Pagan

How to Test Pricing for Maximum Revenue

A systematic approach to discovering optimal pricing through controlled testing

1
Set baseline price
Start with your current price and track sales volume and revenue for a specific time period
2
Test price increase
Raise the price by 25-50% and monitor results for the same duration as your baseline period
3
Compare results
Calculate both total revenue and sales volume to see which price point performs better overall
4
Run split tests
For more precise testing, run head-to-head comparisons with different prices simultaneously

Questions Answered

Why do higher prices sometimes lead to more sales?

“the day that I raised the price I sold more copies of the book”
— Eben Pagan▶ 5:40

Higher prices signal quality and value to customers. When Eben raised his book price from $30 to $40, he sold 10 copies in one day—his best sales day ever—because customers perceived the higher-priced product as more valuable.

How do you test pricing for digital products?

“we did some different prices and it actually turned out that it sold better for $100 more so went from $200 to $300 and it sold better”
— Eben Pagan▶ 6:42

Run head-to-head split tests with different price points. Test one price for a period, then test another, measuring both sales volume and total revenue. Eben found his course sold better at $300 than $200 through systematic testing.

What makes information products valuable?

“the only thing that has value anymore is information because information turns raw material and raw resources into products and services and experiences”
— Eben Pagan▶ 3:08

Information transforms raw materials into valuable products and services. Like oil was worthless until information and technology made it refineable into gasoline. Information is what creates value from basic resources.

How do you increase perceived value of digital products?

“I made the book and then I made three bonus books so you kind of got one book plus three bonus books so you got some you know little package”
— Eben Pagan▶ 4:09

Bundle your main product with bonus materials and present it as a package. Eben sold his dating book with three bonus ebooks, which justified a higher price point and increased the perceived value of the entire package.

What is the relationship between price and perceived quality?

“Robert Cialdini's book you could walk into a bookstore and get it for like $10 in paperback Jay Abraham's book was $1,000 that's what he actually sold it for and he sold a lot of them”
— Eben Pagan▶ 1:32

Price signals quality to customers. Two identical books can have vastly different values—one selling for $10, another for $1,000—based purely on how customers perceive their worth and the price point signals quality.

Summary

The Subjective Nature of Value

Eben opens with a powerful comparison between two books—one selling for $10, another for $1,000—to illustrate how value is entirely subjective. He explores the philosophical question of what makes anything valuable, using Ray Kurzweil's insight that information is the primary creator of value in the modern economy.

The Price Testing Breakthrough

Eben shares the pivotal moment when raising his dating book price from $30 to $40 resulted in his best sales day ever. This counterintuitive result—higher price leading to more sales—became a foundational lesson that he applied across multiple products with similar success.

Perceived Value and Negotiation

The session concludes with broader principles about perceived value and the idea that 'you get what you negotiate' in life. Eben connects pricing psychology to fundamental business and life strategies around value creation and communication.